Mike Hudack

Atheism as faith

justinday:

ericmortensen:

You define athiesm as “To assume that you know with no amount of uncertainty how The Universe was created”.  Atheism has nothing to do with that.  Atheists simply say, “due to a complete lack of evidence, I do not believe in deities.”  That’s it. Nothing more.  There’s certainly nothing about atheism that asserts an understanding of how the universe was created. In fact, there’s nothing about atheism that involves having an opinion about the universe at all.  However, it’s likely that most atheists do believe the latest scientific evidence of the creation of the universe.

If someone was raised in the middle of nowhere and never encountered anyone who believed in god, he’d be an atheist simply by virtue of never having heard of the “guy”. This person is no different than I am, in that neither of us have seen evidence of god and therefor are not compelled to believe in its existence.  That’s fact, not faith.

That is incorrect. There is a difference between believing in no God and not believing in God. I actively believe that there is no God. Someone who had never heard of God would not be an Atheist because they would not have an opinion on the matter.

I also take fault with your assertion that there is a complete lack of evidence for Theism as well. While I don’t think that the evidence is credible enough to sway my belief, there’s certainly no lack of it.

Good stuff. Personally I’m agnostic. I’m not swayed by the arguments for or against the existence of God. I believe that either position is one of faith.

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   Atheism ≠ religion. Atheism is irreligion. Religion = the belief in/worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a...

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   To jump into this little conversation, ericmortensen and spytap are correct. The only thing that makes you an atheist is...

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   when i left my husband and denounced all religion at the age of nineteen, his mother gave me a book called not enough...

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    Aye. Having to explain this over and over again gets incredibly tired.

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    i would say that most atheists would probably hate to have their non-believing beliefs called “faith”, if only because...

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    I’m curious to hear this “evidence for Theism.” That sounds fascinating. Not a general “god concept,” but Theism?! Let’s...

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    Julia says, “Atheism is a religion like NOT collecting stamps is a hobby…. I don’t believe in agnostics…” I love it.

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    Faith does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. That’s what makes it faith. If you have evidence, you don’t...

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    I think there is a misasumption here - Not Believing In God and Believing There Is No God are not the same thing, though...

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    God botherers often accuse atheists of having “faith” that there is no god, demonstrating that they really don’t know...

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    This is why I choose to be agnostic. I highly doubt there is a God, but simply dismissing him as impossible would make...

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    Good stuff. Personally I’m agnostic. I’m not swayed by the arguments for or against the existence of God. I believe that...

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    I think the confusion here is that what Justin is arguing for is anti-theism, which does require a kind of belief....

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    Ditto. Just liked what SpyTap said.

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    I feel quite uninspired to debate as well, but I love the wit contributed by Spytap.

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    I just don’t have it in me to get into this debate today, so I’ll leave it with a pithy - yet accurate - comment:...

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    incorrect. There...difference between believing in no God and

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    http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismmyths/a/faith.htm sums this up nicely, Dawkins also has a nice treatment of this, I...

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    worship the glitch:...as faith Key word “believe”. Debate 101: Don’t void your...

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    Huh? That’s completely backward. Nothing...irrefutable. By your definition, evolution

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    i have to call bullshit on...one. Don’t get me wrong - JD is one of few people who i...

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